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作者: 活蹦乱跳 时间: 2007-12-26 08:29 标题: T6Raven

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SACDuiZYpUE
这段视频看起来打法已经比较像样了雷文改的东西真多而且还保持了风格估计就算不是最强也是最有意思的人物之一

作者: 活蹦乱跳 时间: 2007-12-26 08:36

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAwvGpyZtGE

动作帅啊

作者: tianyuanyuan 时间: 2007-12-26 09:12

主力绝对的主力:lol 还得再挑一个。。。

作者: 活蹦乱跳 时间: 2007-12-26 09:13

目前已知的改动（部分）：

1改为10f
3改为中段
1+2无破绽
f23新招 15f中中combo 无破绽
f3+4~f4~3新后续中段可接连招
df23第二下追加避上段属性
df24新招第二下是中段
df443新后续一个瞬移到空中往下砸的招式看来df44没确反了
df1+2新招动作很像qcf2的中段
df3+4就是原来的3+4
db4不CH不倒
b2~4~3+4新后续上上下上最后一下是分身踢超华丽可用作浮空收尾
b4b4~3f4~3 同f3+4~f4~3
b1+2~2强制进背向大不利
ub1命中后有分身动作可以选择在对方哪一侧出现
ub3d33新后续避下段的中段
ff2就是原来的f2
ff3浮空效果改变可以直接追加第二个ff3
ff4无责任突进中段速度快浮空中可以接在ff3后面作收尾上墙也可以直接上墙
ub~b3+4变成防御不能判定动作不变
ws2被防无破绽
fc~df3+4就是5.0的qcf3+4
fc~df3+4~4新后续上段被点拳确反之后可以选择进背向
ss3ch有晕
qcf1击中后有分身动作可以选择在对方哪一侧出现
qcf2b取消打击进背向
qcf21取消下段变中段
qcf3就是原来的ffn3 无破绽距离远避上段浮空
qcf3+4是追踪技被点拳确反
b+1+3或b+2+4 正统返技

背向：
21 连拳之后可以选择保持背向
343新后续中段
1+2破绽增大
f23就是原来的f24
f24~3+4新后续中上下上最后一下是分身踢超华丽可用作浮空收尾
f3可以选择是否保持背向
d3可以接高位浮空
b2新招中段
b23中段避下段有大破绽
b24上段无破绽
ff3无破绽

新构3+4：
1 同qcf1
2 原来的df1+2防御不能以后再也不用怕不小心按出这招了
3 原来的ffn3
4 原来的df3+4瞬移技
3+4 上面说过两次那个华丽分身踢
构中也可以出指令不冲突的普通技

目前的连招：
B!有三个 b1 ub12 b4n4
正面B!后可以接ff3, ff4
背向B!后可以接f24~3+4
墙B!后可以接f3+4~42 不过不稳定

作者: 合金小布 时间: 2007-12-26 11:19

太强了我一定要练哈哈
T6 再过3个月就可以打家用了

作者: yanshen 时间: 2007-12-26 11:24

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原帖由 tianyuanyuan 于 2007-12-26 09:12 发表
主力绝对的主力:lol 还得再挑一个。。。

那我帮你从TZ转个KING地
Updated 22-12-07
T6 King news:

- King apparently still keeps his old "Unconkable wavedash" form.

- New throw, f,HCF+2. Toss up into a powerslam. Perhaps 12 frames (the grab animation looks like standard 2+4). Break is 2, damage seems similar to that of Tombstone. Can work as an airthrow.

- His d+1+3 crouch throw has changed. King hits the opponent in the head twice, knocking them back.

- New string, b+1>2. 1st hit is the same move from 5.0/DR, 2nd hit looks sorta like DR AK's WS+2. 2nd hit is delayable, as the command implies. Hits high, is jab punishable on block, it can also be ducked on block of the b+1. The string is a natural combo however, even if 2nd hit is delayed.

- b+1,4 is another new option. It's b+1 followed by a kick similar to uf+3. Punishable on block it seems.

- New move, b+2>1+2 which is a quick high punch (not the old b+2 move) into a high headbutt. 2nd hit causes bound and looks pretty reliable in juggles.

- New move, b+2>4. The new b+2 into a right sidekick (mid). If the 4 hits on CH it will throw shift into Olympic Slam. Neither this string nor the b+2,1+2 are NC.

- New move, df+4,3,4_d+4. low, high, mid_low. 1st hit is a quick low (but looks different from his old df+4). 3rd hit can be either 4 (which is the f+4 mid ender) or d+4 (the db+4 low ender). The mid 4 ender is jab punishable but the d+4 ender is semi-safe (punishable by quick ground hits) like db+4. The df+4,3 can be used in many juggles such as FC,df+2, df+4,3, f+2,2,2 (b!)

- FC,df+2, f+3, 1 juggles are no longer possible, presumably because King's jab was changed to 10 frames again. However it seems you can do FC,df+2, df+4,3, 1 juggles instead.

- WS+1+2 flips the opponent when it launches, a la TTT Dark Upper. Probably punishable by jabs on block. On a launch you can juggle ending with airthrows though.

- CD+4 is no longer a jumping knee, instead it has changed into AK's CD+4 knee form. Like AK's knee, it appears to be safe, pushing back the opponent on block, but might be jab punishable with a wall behind King's back. When it hits a crouching opp, it causes the same weird knockdown that Feng's df+1 or WS+4 on crouching opp. From this knockdown, it seems King can combo f+4 or 1+2,1 if opponent doesn't techroll. EDIT: CH CD+4, df+2,1, d+3+4,2 guaranteed.

- uf+4 has a new animation, now it is a knee, somewhat similar to the new CD+4 but has him jumping a bit. uf,N+4 is still the same

- BT d+4 is his db+4 move done from BT position.

- Yet another new string, JGS 3,2+3 is his JGS 3 move followed by f,f+2+3. Not a true combo however, since the 2+3 part can be avoided by techroll.

- King can now do his d+3+4,4,4,4,4 and d+3+4,2/d+3+4,4,2/etc. without a CH on the first d+3+4.

- His item move is db+1+2, it's the T2 Octopus Hold grab as seen in the tekkenofficial screenshots (it replaces the Figure 4 throw), damage seems average judging from the vids.

- He has lost his guaranteed followups after wall hit GS.

- His f+4 is now jab punishable on block, as is the mid ender in the df+4,3,4 string.

- df+1,2 seems to have less range

- CD+1+2 is now slower and more punishable on block

- f,f+2+3 knocks down (TTT style) on normal hit, but causes stagger on CH. Same goes for the b,b,ub version (his "off the wall" attack)

- SS+2 has been changed to a new high punch

- WS+2 causes a stagger on hit. Probably launch on CH?

- Tombstone, Muscle Buster and iSW airthrow can break through the floor for new stages

Combos:

Post bound (b!) enders:

f+2+3 (not possible sometimes)
f,f+2+3
d+3+4,2
d+1+2
iSW airthrow (hard to get, not possible sometimes e.g. after uf+4, f+2,2,2 (b!).)
d+(1+3_2+4) air multi

Known juggles:

uf+4, df+2,1, 1, b+2,1+2 (b!), f+2+3 - seems the current staple
uf+4, df+4,3, f+2,2,2 (b!), ender
uf+4, 2,1, b+2,1+2 (b!), iSW
uf+4, 2,1, f+2,2,2 (b!), d+1+2
uf+4, 2,1, 1, b+2,1+2 (b!), iSW - about 43~44%
uf+4, df+2,1, 1, 1, iSW

FC,df+2, df+4,3, b+2,1+2 (b!), ender
FC,df+2, df+4,3, b+2,1+2 (b!), iSW (bigs, with a wall)
FC,df+2, df+4,3, f+2,2,2 (b!), ender (bigs)
FC,df+2, df+4,3, b+2,1+2 (b!), df+4,3 (w!), iSW - 55~60%
FC,df+2, df+4,3, 1, iSW

CH b+1, df+2,1, 1, iSW
CH b+1, f+2,2,2 (b!), ender (f+2+3 whiffs)

WS+1+2, df+2,1, 1, iSW_GS

CH uf+1+2, df+2,1, d+3+4,2 - about 40%

CH db+3, WS+4, df+4,3

Rough transcript of the T6 King combo vid:

FC,df+2, df+4,3, b+2,1+2 (b!), dash d+3+4,2
uf+4, 2,1, 1, b+2,1+2 (b!), d+1+2?
FC,df+2, df+4,3, b+2,1+2 (b!), dash d+2+4
uf+4, b+1, 1, 1, b+2,1+2 (b!), d+2+4
uf+4, 1, 1, 1,2, dash (w!), f+2,2,2 (b!), d+2+4
uf+4, b+2,1+2 (b!), iSW
FC,df+2, df+4,3, b+2,1+2 (b!), iSW
uf+4, 1, 1, b+2,1+2 (b!), iSW
CH CD+1+2, f+2,2, 1, iSW
uf+4, 2,1, 1, b+2,1+2 (b!), iSW

Quote:
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Originally posted by KaNE
df4,3,4 ... "shooting kick combination" ... l,h,m ...
df4,3,d4 ... "shooting kick ~ low drop kick" ... l,h,l

b1,2 ... "sprint hook ~ cross up" ... h,h
b1,3 ... "sprint hook ~ kneel kick" ... h,m

b2 ... "american jab" ... h
b2,1+2 ... "american jab ~ headbutt" ... h,h
b2,4 ... "american jab ~ toe kick" ... h,m
b2,4[ch] ... "olympia slam" [auto grab]

uf4 ... "jumping knee lift" ... m

f,n,d,df4 ... "knee lift" ... m
ss2 ... "victory [?palm]" ... h

f,hcf2 ... "down bust" ... grab
d1+3 ... "[?...] lariat" ... crouch grab
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

thanks to:
Snap and Saotome Kaneda for testing info
PrepareforTrouble for the combo vid transcript.
KaNE for translating some of King's new moves' names

by Jaguar King

作者: tianyuanyuan 时间: 2007-12-26 20:41

KIING不错最期待的还是LAW...:lol

作者: xoyo 时间: 2007-12-27 11:02

同LS的~~最期待的还是law~
希望LZ能来点介绍，ws2接招还是那么慢吗？

雷文：
fc~df3+4就是5.0的qcf3+4
这个以后肯定是强力二择~~
看录像里好像WS2普通情况下也可浮空？

作者: yanshen 时间: 2007-12-27 13:49

不可能吧，ws2没破绽，普通再浮空，谁还用ws1

raven df3 的动作好象改了

作者: yanshen 时间: 2007-12-27 13:58

至于LAW ，在最终改动里 ws12 一发中两发全中 13frame

作者: xoyo 时间: 2007-12-27 14:04

引用:

原帖由 yanshen 于 2007-12-27 13:49 发表
不可能吧，ws2没破绽，普通再浮空，谁还用ws1

raven df3 的动作好象改了

那也没啥~
WS1好用啊~破绽也小。在加上WS2/WS4，配合ddf3+4~。:lol

作者: CrazyPANDA 时间: 2008-1-9 19:43

嗷！帅死了！分身哦！×男我用定了！

作者: 活蹦乱跳 时间: 2008-1-12 08:21

还是这个人强不愧是s级

df3是新动作躲上段其他性能不变

1+2无破绽强！

df443无确反太强！

由于backdash过程中完全不能防御 ff3命中率直线上升一后退就少了半管血

FC二择太强了 fc,df3+4由于有后招无法100%确反还有受身取 ws1判定强的一塌糊涂而且这个二择在qcf和fc,df,d,df两种步伐里都可以出无影无踪防不胜防比5.0还狠对方一害怕就要后退一后退就是一个ff3飞过去爽！

作者: tianyuanyuan 时间: 2008-1-12 12:50

这就叫忍者:lol ...

作者: yanshen 时间: 2008-1-12 13:51

backdash过程中完全不能防御....

作者: 天羽雅音 时间: 2008-1-14 13:57

DR里bb的那一小会儿（脚离地）时也是不能防御的，想知道T6 backdash中完全不能防御是怎么个具体的改动。。。。如果真的和描述的一样这可是T3以来相当大的一个改动，对对战的影响超过B! 、rage等系统。

作者: yanshen 时间: 2008-1-14 14:22

j00n:KBDC (Korean Back Dash Cancelling) sucks or is non-existent. The b,b,db,b,db,b,db, etc. method doesn't move back fast enough and leaves the character open to attacks. Might as well hold forward.

本来就是个猥琐地东西，去了最好,wahahaha

作者: yanshen 时间: 2008-1-19 19:27

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9ecSf_Ze_Y

这就叫顶

作者: xoyo 时间: 2008-1-22 12:40

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=7aKnDX1HaqM
无聊了~

作者: yanshen 时间: 2008-3-4 08:43

另外一个RAVEN地帖子比较新,这个没什么内容锁了

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