yanshen 2004-12-28 14:17
[转帖]TZ某人总结地T5 STEVE 10大最好招数
1.) d/f+2: 直接浮空不需要CH，安全速度快.
2.) 121: 可以被SS，不过依然好用.
3.) d/f+1,2:
4.) 1,1,2: 速度快，第一发中后面全中， 被防破绽似乎比T4更小.
5.) ff+2: 上段，CH后暴血.
6.) d+1: great, quick low move. TC's high attacks, leaves good options on hit. the opponent can trade hits with a ws1,2 by doing a d+1...if this happens, just low parry, or cc ffn+2 them.
7.) alb+2_d+2: can be ss'ed and can be knocked out of during alb start-up, but covers distance and alb2 gives same ch properties as ff+2. albd+2 can be seen coming, but still a good low move. haven't messed around with the alb,u_d, 1_d+1, as people usually try to snuff alb when they see it. so i either get hit, or get ch, depending on what move they used.
8.) 4,2: not really safe on block, but the built in right ss is GREAT when used pre-ssr as it makes a lot of moves whiff with an immediate retaliation. i'm about 50% sure alb2 guaranteed after a 4,2 ch, but needs more testing.
9.) d+2,1: i never pull out the f+2 follow-up, as it can be ducked. but this low,mid is very good in okizeme, as it picks up rollers, and it's very good just standing.
10.) f,fF+2: can be ss'ed quite easily, but still leaves in GREAT frame advantage which leads to great mix-ups. can't be used up close, need at least a little bit of range for it to come out since it's technically a running move.
VERY HONORABLE MENTION:
iflk 1<f+1: i've begun to use this much more, as it leaves opponents in crouch status, and gives good frames on block (not 100% positive, needs more testing). if you notice the opponent ss'ed your iflk 1, do a <d+1, which causes the ff+2 stun on ch, and catches ss'ers. instant flk 1... is done as 1+2~1... great, new addition, as it's much more effective that going into flk from jab strings.
btw- did anyone verify that flk 1,2 is guaranteed on ch/reg hit?
i think steve CAN be used as a rush-down character, but it depends who he's playing against. 8 framers can eat him alive if you're not careful, and a lot of his mvoes can be tc'ed. but if you're using the right mix of moves, throws, and ss'ing_bd'ing, steve is easily one of the best rush-downer's in the game.
i dont use u/f+3,2 anymore, because ppl duck the ,2 on reaction now. if i want to low crush something, i go for u/f+2_u/f+1.
PERFECTTK 2004-12-28 16:35
我就知道韩国那比赛NIN会夺冠，果然……
yanshen 2004-12-28 17:14
<P>听说韩国比赛，有 1/3 人用地都是STEVE。。。。。。。</P>
<P>MDJ 是那次是唯一使用HWOA地人，估计就是录像里面那个了，难怪那那群人在后面喊HWOA,HWOA， 估计想看MDJ地HWOA， 他还用MADUK好像， 不过听说已经放弃了， 因为实在太......“pretty bad” MDJ says， too many punishable moves</P>
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铁拳战神 2004-12-30 07:52
我选择steve感觉机动性好。。。可以弥补差距，没有想到实力也、、、