1秒7个风神步 2005-7-25 07:35
bkin和喜欢yoshi 的进来
下面是yoshi 被防住后的桢数，由于本人不用yoshi，所以可能有些出入，如果有可以改进的地方，请大家赐教。我是根据julia 的确反 和我的目测写的，虽然不是100% 正确，但是我想应该八九不离十。-15 以上就是非常不安全，被防住基本就是半条血没了，所以谨慎使用！<B>黑体的是确认的</B>，其他的是我推测的，先说一下他的punisher:
<B>f+2, 下血最多，应该17 frame，f+2, F+throw_d/f+2,d/f+2,b+1,(1),1,(1),1, b+1,(1),1, f+3+4_ff+2 wall
d/f+2 差不多应该16 frame
u/f+3 比d/f+2 快点，应该是14frame
121 & ff+4 应该是8frame, 不过hit 之后好像还是处于桢数劣势
1+4 我觉得应该是用它来打断招，试了一下他可以打断deviljin 的ff+3,1, 4,不过不能打断byran 的ws+3,4,所以我觉得它应该是11frame
Yoshi execution
1,2,1 8
f,f+4 8
2,1 10
WS+4 11
4,4 12
WS+1~f,F+4 12
f+4,4 14
u/f+3 14
WS+2 15
d/f+2 16
f+2 17
f+3+4 19
<B>on block
WS+2 -9
f+3+4 -10
1+4 -11
WS+1 -12
3,4 -14
u/f+3 -14
4~3 -15
f+2 -16
f,f+4 -17
f+1+2 -17
FC,d/f+3 -17
u+1+2,3 -22</B></B>
Yoshi on block
u/f+3 -10
d+4 -11-12
d+3 -15
d/b+3 -11-12
d/b+3,3,3,3,3 -11-12
FC d/f+3 -15+
f+2 -16+
2,d+3 -15+
3,3 -15+
3,4 -10
f+3+4 -10
3,d+3+4 -16+
f+3+4,1+2, 3+4 -16+
b+1+2 -11-12
flea 1+2 -8
flea 3+4 -16+
flea f+3+4 -11-13
f+1+2 -16+
d/f+1,2 -8-9
IND 4 -16+
IND 3,3+4 -16+
FLY 2 -10
FLY 3 -16
u/f+3+4 -16+
u/f+3+4,3+4 -16+
ff+2 -10
ff+4 -16
ws+2 -15
ss+2 -8
ss+4 -10
4~3 -16
ws+3 -10
BT3 -10
下面的punishment (中文是不是叫确反？)，是别人给我的， 我稍微加了点，如果有错的话，请大家说
Anna
d+3,2 -- u/f+3
u/f+1>3,3+4 -- Yoshi can 1+4 Anna’s 3+4 canned follow-up if the u/f+1,3 is blocked_b+3+4
d/b+3 -- u/f+3
d/b+1,4 -- u/f+3_d/f+2_f+2
d/b+1,1 -- u/f+3
d/b+4 -- u/f+3
d/b+4,3 -- u/f+3_N~d/f+2_N~f+2
d/f+4 -- ws+2
b+1 -- ff+4_1,2,1
FC d/f+2 -- u/f+3
U/F+4 -- u/f+3
d/f+2 -- safe
ws+2_qcf+2 -- safe
U+4 -- safe
Asuka
db+2 -- ff+4_1,2,1
ff+2 -- ff+4
1,2,3 -- b+3+4_1+4 (flash hits 1,2,3~b)
3~4 -- u/f+3
d/f+3 -- ff+4
u/f+4 -- 1,2,1_ff+4
f+2 -- u/f+3_d/f+2_f+2
d/b+3 -- ws+4_ff+4
2 --safe
d/f+2 -- safe
1,2,4 -- safe
3+4 -- safe
ws+3 -- safe
b+1 -- safe
FC d/f+2 -- safe
1+2 -- safe
Baek
d/b+4_FLA d/b+4 -- dash u/f+3_N,d/f+2_N,f+2
1+2 -- 1,2,1_ff+4
1+2,4 -- u/f+3_d/f+2_f+2 & can avoid '4' by b+3+4
d+4,3,3,3 -- d/f+2_f+2
d/f_ws+4>4>4 -- u/f+3_b+3+4 to avoid last hit
d/f_ws+4,4,3 -- ff+4_b+3+4 to avoid last hit
FL f+3 -- ff+4_1,2,1
FL b+4_b+4 -- u/f+3_d/f+2
FL b+3 -- ff+4
FL d+3 -- ff+4_ws+4
d+3,3,n+3 -- u/f+3
d/f+2 -- safe
b+1 -- safe
Bruce
b+4,3 -- 1,2,1_ff+4
df+1,2 -- ff+4_d/f+4
uf+3 -- 1,2,1_ff+4_2 series_d/f+4
uf+4 -- 1,2,1_ff+4_2 series_d/f+4
F+2,4 -- u/f+3
ws+2,1 -- 1,2,1_ff+4
b+1 -- u/f+3_d/f+2
bb+4 -- u/f+3_N,d/f+2_N~f+2
1,2,1,2 -- u/f+3
d/f+3 -- safe
Bryan
3,3,2 -- (?) between the 2nd and 3rd hits
df+3 -- uf+3; ws+2
Christie
b+3~3_ws+1,3_d+3~3 -- Going into FLEA~f+3+4 to combo is works
df+3+4 -- f+3+4 (clean hits)
1+2~3 -- f+3+4 (clean hits)
df+1~1 -- safe
3,4 -- you can duck the first hit, then sidewalk left the second hit
RLX 4~3 -- keep in mind that this attack hits low TWICE, so if you happen to make the first low whiff, you can dash in and low parry the second (not many peeps know this, heh heh). You can also block the first low, then parry the second kick before she goes into HSP.
RLX 3~4 -- df+1,2,db+2,2,2,2 (floats for a juggle, have to be deep); ff+4
df+2 -- safe
u_uf+4 -- safe
ss+4 -- she's safe on block/hit. this kick hits twice if deep. you can block the second kick
b+2 -- safe
db+1+2 -- safe
ws+3+4 -- f+2; f+3+4, whatever. No one uses this though, they'll usually goto a stance
RLX stance -- If you see this stance, you can try doing d+4, DGF, FLEA to evade their options
RLX f+3+4 -- safe
b+4,3... -- low parry the second hit
b+4,4 -- after the first 4 is blocked, you can jab into b+1 combo
b+4,4,3+4 -- after blocking the second flip, you can sidewalk
f+3+4 -- 1,2,1; ff+4, 2 (RP) variations
u+3 -- as she's flipping in the air, you can attack her, but as her feet come out, you can't interrupt
Craig
d+4 -- u/f+3
d/f+1 -- 1,2,1_d/f+4_ff+4_2 series
d/f+1+2 -- 1,2,1_ff+4
fc,d/f+4 -- u/f+3
d/b+1+2 -- f+3+4
d+1+2 -- 1,2,1_ff+4_2 series_d/f+4
ws+3_VTS 3 -- 1,2,1_ff+4
f+4 -- ws+4_ff+4
d+2,4 -- 1,2,1_ff+4
d/f+3,d+1 -- 1,2,1_ff+4
f+2 -- 1,2,1_ff+4
d+3 -- ws+4
ws+4 -- safe
u/f+4 -- safe
b+1 -- safe
f+2,1 -- safe (duck second hit & punish)
1+2 -- safe
Devil Jin
ff+3,1,3_4 -- (?) between the 2nd and 3rd hits
df+2,1_2 -- (?) between the hits
d/f+2,1 –ff+4
112 –u/f+3
CD+4—u/f+3
Eddy (not sure if he has different punishments)
Feng Wei
d/b+1 -- ff+4
d/b+1,2 -- ff+4_2 series
ss+4 -- u/f+3
1,1 -- flash or b+3+4 between 1st and 2nd hit
1,2,2 -- duck the last hit
1,2,2~b -- d/f+4
ws+2 -- ff+4_d/f+4_2 series
qcf_ws+3 -- 1,2,1_ff+4_d/f+4_2 series
2~1 -- 1,2,1_ff+4
f+4,4-- flash or b+3+4 between 1st and 2nd hit
f+4,3 -- b+3+4 the low sweep, punish
uf+4 -- 1,2,1_ff+4_2 series_d/f+4
b+1+2 -- f+2
f+2,1,2 -- f+2
db+2,2,2 (block/hit) second hit is low parryable, and on block you can (?) the second hit. You can get hit by the first hit, go into DGF to evade the second, hit "D", then flash the 3rd hit (but, low parry is best option).
b,f+1 -- u/f+3_d/f+2
d/b+3 -- u/f+3
BT d+3 -- u/f+3
db+4 -- u/f+3_f+2 (note: f+2 requires precise timing)
d+2 -- ff+4_ws+4
d/b+1+2,2 -- safe (please parry if opponent uses this string)
f+3,1 -- flash or b+3+4 between 1st and 2nd hit
ws+1,2,1 -- ff+4_d/f+4
ff+4,3 -- 1,2,1_ff+4_2 series
ff+2 -- f+1
1+2 -- ff+4_d/f+4
Ganryu
f+1+2 -- safe (?) 4 -- safe
b+2 -- safe
d+1+2 -- safe
d/f+2 -- safe
Hwoarang
RFF ff+3 -- 1,2,1_2 series
b+3 -- u/f+3 (confirmation?)
non-JF Skyrocket -- f+2 0_o?!
d/b+3 -- ws+4
d/b+4,4 -- duckable on block for guaranteed uf+3 (works on normal hit too)
d+4,4 -- duckable on block for guaranteed uf+3 (works on normal hit too)
RFF 3,4 -- duckable on block for guaranteed uf+3
LFF_LFS d+3,4 -- duckable on block for guaranteed uf+3
Jack-5
f+1+2 -- (?) punishes f+1+2 and interrupts any canned followup
f+1+2, 2 -- f+3+4 after blocking f+1+2 will hit Jack through the canned follow-up
ff+2 -- u/f+3
df+3+4 -- f+2
d/f+2 -- d/f+4_d/f+1,1
f+3+4 -- d/f+4_ff+4
d/b+2 -- dash u/f+3
d/f+1+2 -- stand->b,b+1+2 UB!!!
Jin
db+2,2,3 -- (?) between hits 2 and 3
bf+2,1,2 -- iWS+2 under hit #2
uf+4 -- ff+4_1,2,1_2 series
ecd+1 -- 1,2,1_2 series_ff+4
ws+2 -- ff+4_1,2,1_2 series
db+2
db+2,2
CDS 4
CD+4 or any string that ends in it –-u/f+3
Julia
1,1
1,1,1 -- ff+4_b+3+4 will evade the last hit (whether Julia does 1_4)
1,1,4,3
FC,df+4,3-- u/f+3
uf+3+4—u/f+3, d/f+2, f+2
ff+3 -- 1,2,1_ff+4
ws+3 -- safe_1+4
u/f+4—u/f+3
u/f+4,3 –u/f+3
Kazuya
ws+1,2 -- ff+4_1,2,1
CD+4,1 -- ff+4_1,2,1
df+2
ff+2
df+4,4 -- u/f+3
112 –u/f+3
CD+4 -- u/f+3
1,2,4 -- can 1+4 between the 2 and 4
King
d/b+3 -- u/f+3
u/f+4 -- ff+4_1,2,1_2 series
1+2,2 -- rumor of 1+4 the second hit (confirm?)
d/b+4 -- u/f+3+4,b+1 <-- not sure if the canned u/f+3+4 would hit
Kuma/Panda
d/b+2
d/f+2
Law
4,u+3 -- (?) between the hits
d+2,3 -- u/f+3
UF+4,3
FC,df,d,df+3 -- PG_DGF 3
db+4 -- dash u/f+3
ws+2 -- d/f+2
Lee
uf+4
WS+3,3,df+3,3
Lei
db+4 -- u/f+3
Nina
d+3,2 -- u/f+3
d,d/f+4 -- dash u/f+3
d,d/f+2—ff+4
SS+2
b+1 -- u/f+3
ws+2
ss+1,2
f+1+2 -- d/f+2
ff+3 -- u/f+3
d/f+3,2,3 -- d/f+2
Paul
d+1,2_4,2 -- (?) between 1st and 2nd hits
qcf+2
d+1+2 -- f+2
WS+2
SS+3
d+4
Raven
4~3,3
4~3 -- ff+4_1,2,1
ff+3 -- ff+4_1,2,1_2 series
d/f+4 -- u/f+3
df+4<4 -- u/f+3
uf+4,4 -- d/f+2
qcf+2 -- u/f+3
qcf+3+4 -- dash d/f+2_u/f+3
d/b+4 -- u/f+3
1+2
2,3
Roger Jr.
ff+2 -- 1,2,1_ff+4_d/f+4_2 series
d/b+3 -- ws+4
ss+4 -- dash u/f+3_N,d/f+2_N,f+2
u/f+4 -- 1,2,1_ff+4_d/f+4_2 series
d/b+1+2 -- u/f+3 (juggle)
ff+4 -- d/f+2
f+4,3 -- d/f+2_f+2_f+3+4
f+4,3,2 -- b+3+4_u/f+3_d/f+2_f+2
d+4 -- ws+4
FC 1+2 -- f+3+4_ff+2
1+2,3+4 -- b+3+4_1+4 (air hit)_1,2,1_ff+4_2 series
BT 3+4 -- u/f+3_d/f+2
d/f+1+2 -- safe
3~4 -- safe
f+1+2 -- safe_d+1 (?)
Steve
ffn+2
df+1+2
d+1 -- u/f+3
ALB d+2
db+2 -- u/f+3
1,1,2
ws+1,2 -- 1,2,1_2 series_ff+4
4,2 – u/f+3_d/f+2
d/b+3
Wang
1,1
1,1,1
d/f+1,1
ss+4 -- ws+4_ff+4
ws+4 -- u/f+3
FC d/f+4,3 -- u/f+3_d/f+2_b+1+4 (after blocking 1st hit)
u/f+4 -- d/f+4_1,2,1_ff+4_2 series
u+4 -- d/f+4_ff+4
f+2 -- f+1_ff+4
qcf+2 -- ff+2 (strict timing)
d/f+1+2 -- d/f+2
d+3+4 -- u/f+3
d+3 -- ws+4
d/f+2,1 -- d/f+2_f+2_b+3+4 (after blocking 1st hit)
d+4,2 -- 1,2,1_ff+4
d+4,4 -- u/f+3
d+1+2 -- 1,2,1_ff+4
d+2~1_d+2,1+2 -- d/f+4_d/f+1,1
ws+2,2,2 -- ws+4_ff+4
d/b+1+2 -- safe
b+4 -- safe
f+1+2 -- safe
Xiaoyu
RDS 4 -- d/f+2
ss+3 -- u/f+3
ss+4 -- ws+4
AOP u/f+3,4 -- ff+4
d/b+4 -- ws+4
ff+3+4 or BT ff+3+4 -- You can flash as she's flipping in the air
Yoshimitsu
u/f+3
fc,df+3
DGF 3
ff+4
1,2,1
f+1+2--u/f+3
f+3,3—u/f+3
ss+1
ss+2
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